i think president obama's upon of john brennan sends the message to all americans. >> you worked with him, directly for him. did he receive internal updates regularly about the torture techniques including waterboarding, as orders is reporting? >> i worked for him when he was an analytic manager. it was before he really hit the big time. but again, i think it is impossible for him not to have gotten these briefings, for him not to have been intimately involved in the policy by virtue of his senior position. some of the senior most positions in the cia, it is impossible he did not know what was going on. >> john kiriakou, you will be going to prison shortly. t know exactly when your prison sentence will begin? how are you preparing for this? you're the father of five children. >> i don't know exactly when this will be. it will be sometime in the next four to six weeks i will have to report to a prison somewhere. i don't know where. frankly, it is very hard to prepare. you have to do things like a range power of attorney, a range child care. i mean, there's so many things to do that is